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“To oppose corruption in government is the highest obligation of patriotism.”



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Small businesses “create two out of every three American jobs.”

— Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill

Could there be a need for a 20' ceiling spec building for a small business in Madison?

Just asking. Maybe the MIDCOR experts could enlighten us on this subject being we have given millions for their expertise.


Added: March 18, 2017 01:09:05 PM
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Hearing the JCIDC gang is out of sorts about having to settle. Supposedly one of them submitted a public records request for county attorney bills. They're mad because it's all around town what really happened so now their crack pot plan is to show they screwed over the county for settling less than what it cost the county to straighten their crooked azzez out. If it's true ther pouting and have hatched up another get even scheme it should be tons of laughs. Wonder if they'll bring back Trevor the king of wings and Truax Grotes Thug to scream at the commissioners again or maybe they'll just send in a few stooges to ask. Hey Bob Cortney , Lisa Shadday you busy.
:D JCIDC's calling!


Added: March 17, 2017 10:02:08 AM
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Thanks for clearing up things Larry. Your a good man

Added: March 17, 2017 09:50:44 AM
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There has been concern on Facebook about a lead poisoning warning from MHS. This is not Madison High School or schools nor does it have anything to do with Madison Water.

MHS is Managed Health Services in Indiana which is Medicaid. They sent out letters and information about protecting your family from lead and having one and two year olds tested. The testing is normal as lead can be in so many things a child can be around. Fishing sinkers, paint in older homes..old water pipes in a house..even candy from foreign countries and lawns can have been contaminated by lead.

The mailing would seem to be to have parents make sure their children are tested as a routine part of their medical examination. I know my grandson has undergone that without anyone asking. This is a preventive outreach by MHS and I assume it is statewide.


Added: March 17, 2017 08:15:10 AM
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Is it true the schools sent home a letter about lead in city water. I don't think I got anything from the city about it and it seems anything like that would have gone from the city not the school. I don't usually get my news from the Facebook gossip pages but this's like a serious thing to say for just a prank.

Added: March 17, 2017 05:58:54 AM
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Jb sent a note letting me know the flag that was donated to the Museum once draped the casket of a Jefferson County WWII vet. I certainly will pass this important information to the John at the Museum. I am sure all will be deeply touched by the generosity.

JB also shared, that of course no one meant to convey any disrespect - in fact perhaps it was me who reacted too harshly , I do not know. All I can say is those who cared , cared so deeply as to offer such a sacred gift & meant no harm. That said, I received an email informing me that a few years past the same "pony tailed gentleman" gave the City 32 new all weather flags because the city had not replaced their torn & tattered flags. I recall a community wide outcry about the flag & flagpole on the riverfront.

As a result of the forum discussion several wonderful things have occurred: a local business has stepped forward to fund all weather flags for the Museum. A suggestion has been made that readers post & recognize the names of offices, businesses & persons who honor our country & community by flying our nations flag. So when you are out and about and see our Colors feel free to post the name and location & recognize those Americans. The only requirement of course is that the flag fly high, higher than all others or stand alone and of course adhere to all other respectful protocol as required. Perhaps JB has a link to a good reference site and can leave it posted for everyone to reference.

Most importantly, an unnamed - ponytailed gentleman provided a significant & priceless keepsake of our American history along with a piece of Jefferson County's heart to our local Museum. Lincoln said of unity and of our flag, "Standing as I do, with my hand upon this staff, and under the folds of the American flag, I ask you to stand by me so long as I stand by it.". My thanks to the Museum, Mr. Nyberg, the ponytailed gentleman, citizens who commented , the veteran whom the scared flag graced, our local veterans & of course JB for hosting such an important discussion. Excellent job by all. Goodnight Tami


Added: March 16, 2017 09:16:14 PM
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That said, I am told an gentleman with a pony tail stopped by the winery today while I was at meetings. He dropped a beautifully folded American Flag which I assumed to be intended to for the Museum. I have since delivered the flag & met with John again as to the status of the all weather Stars and Stripes currently on order. Mr. Nyberg asked me to thank the donor and if that person, persons wish to contact him he would like to personally thank you. His number is: 812-265-2335. He did explain that the flag is not all weather so it cannot be displayed without quickly damaging it. He is of course concerned. FYI he has also taken time to read and follow your comments on this forum so he does care & is listening.

We are expecting rain tomorrow. Obviously the flag would need to be taken down & left appropriately to dry - Its my fault for not asking but I'm not sure the Museum has a place or process for doing that especially since their tradition is to fly an all weather flag 24/7/365 in a well lit area. John expects the Museums all weather - made in USA flag- to arrive sometime late next week. Coincidentally, the weather forecast currently shows rain tomorrow, then moving out until Wednesday or Thursday at which time we have several days of high rain chance. So while someone has donated a flag to the Museum- it is not a flag they can display 24/7/365 as is their wonderful tradition, nor is it a flag they could store appropriately to dry once rain soaked. However, the new all weather flag is expected to arrive soon & once available there is no reason to believe the Museum will not once again return to their tradition of flying 24/7/365. John proudly assures me that is case.

I do not mean to be harsh to those who are so eager to see our flag fly wherever possible as long a possible. I know your hearts are surely in the right place & your words meant to convey a devotion to our country. So I understand & thank you. But I ask please remember to speak carefully when we talk about patriotism & the flag.
The Museum has board members who are veterans, staff & supporters who have served; some have family, sisters, mothers, fathers, brothers, or grandfathers who bled or died for this country. In a community with such a high population of veterans we may not always know who has sat in that front row line of chairs when a young soldier in full dress handed over a beautifully folded flag, stars blazing bright as tears fell and that same well dressed soldier whispered words of gratitude for service rendered over the haunting melody of taps.

There is no such thing as patriotism through cruelty. Thank you for reading today- Tami


Added: March 16, 2017 04:40:19 PM
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Hello everyone: As a reminder it was just a few years back that Forum contributors complained that the country club/Elks was flying a tattered & torn flag. It was pointed out at that time that flying such a flag is disrespectful & several writers generously posted proper flag etiquette including how to retire a damaged flag with appropriate disposal. Also a reminder that flag poles on private property are NOT subject to the same public expectations we have for government buildings. Here in our community we often see Kentucky, Louisville or much to my displeasure as a Purdue grad, IU flags displayed especially this time of year when everyone picks their favorite college team. Some of the flags hang off porch poles, some off flag poles & some are proudly displayed on hooks across the front porch. When these flags come down post NCAA playoffs I rarely see Old Glory in their place. Instead many private businesses & citizens opt to hang welcome flags or seasonal or holiday flags as part of their front yard or entrance to their home. To treat the Museum or Elks as if they are a government building or state facility like the Lanier Mansion is unfair to everyone & very misleading. So in the interest of fairness- let's be fair.

The Museum is not a government building; it is paid for & operated by our fellow citizens many of who are veterans or family of veterans. These citizens normally fly an all weather flag 24/7/365 except on rare special occasions in a well lit area, in a very respectful manner. They are entitled to remove the flag at anytime they so choose & should remove it when needed out of respect if appropriate. They have not & are not doing anything wrong. To accuse these kind persons of being unpatriotic because they don't do as you think they should on their own private property to which they generously allow public access, is in my view, foolishly unpatriotic of you.

To put this in perspective how many USA flags fly 24/7/365 in lighted areas at other local historic sites? Do you see them at HMIs numerous homes; is there one at the Shrewsbury House? How about all our other community organizations? Does every church fly a flag? Is there one at both entrances to the state park? Is there a flag at every bank, Girls Inc, the foundation, or for that matter every veterans residence in our county? How many elected officials display a flag at their home? My point is I am grateful, the Museum honors our country and our veterans by flying every single hour of every single day.Furthermore, I am deeply offended as an American that anyone would criticize a private group of citizens who try so hard & go above & beyond virtually every organization in town except government buildings & one other business that I know of that displays our nations flag appropriately & proudly 24/7/365.


Added: March 16, 2017 04:15:19 PM
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I agree with you, JB. American Flags need to be flying no matter what shape they are in, even if just rags. Someone at the center needs to get an American Flag flying POST HASTE1 And I think they should have some on standby for when they are needed.

Added: March 15, 2017 07:59:00 PM
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Local Democrats will never be a force in this community. Here are the following reasons: 1. National Democrat Party has forgotten Small town America. National Republican Party plus right wing talk radio fits demographic and psychographic makeup. 2. Julie Berry is so caught up in keeping her hands on the reigns. She is flat out killing any type of youth movement. Unless they have her seal of approval. Which stifles creativity. 3. Unions are not a force anymore. 4. John Kennedy Catholics are almost extinct. 5. Old democrat farmers of yesteryear have almost vanished. 6. Die hard Democrats look like left wing nut jobs when they make posts on Facebook. Plus they come across as sore losers when they cry about Trump. 6. When you see National Polls. democrats have a lower approval rate than Trump. Dems are done like dinner in the Madison Community for many many years to come! Rest easy Norbert and Sherry Eblin.

Added: March 15, 2017 07:12:54 PM
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